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Last posted Jul 27, 2024 at 05:13AM EDT. Added Oct 26, 2021 at 11:27PM EDT
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I honestly should have posted this here since it's more relevant to this thread:

As much as I like Chris O'Neil/OneyNG his petty behavior towards the developers of God of War 2018, especially towards the director Corey Barlog, still bothers the crap out of me. Like it's fine if he didn't care for the game, but him making comments one Twitter like basically calling Barlog a "soyboy" when Barlog got emotional at the game being beloved by many. Also his reason for only liking old Kratos rubs me the wrong way, like Chris is saying he legitimately only liked Kratos when the dude could be used as an example of "toxic masculinity" and that Kratos learning to control his anger and be more human "made him a pussy cuck."

I just brought up the idea but I think Drawn Together's concept could lend itself well to changing its cast and crew between series ala Final Fantasy, Persona, Digimon, Gundam, etc. The concept has differing cartoon characters share a house after all, it's pretty interchangeable to me. Like imagine a series themed around villains with parodies of Skeletor, Tomura Shigaraki, Waspinator, Demi Devimon, Meowth, Cinder Fall, Harley Quinn, hell maybe they could keep Captain Hero and have him go by Captain Villain as to poke fun at how Evil Superman is a thing.

They could have a series that's on the level of Classic Simpsons and Early Family Guy with an in-universe justification and running gag that the family and friends of the housemates have intimidated the Jew Producer (Or whoever replaces him) into keeping it less raunchy. Think Meta Knight, Jim Gordon, and All Might breathing down the Jew Producer's neck as to make sure that Izuku, Ochako, Kirby, and their fellow housemates (ex. Karma, Zenitsu, Megumi Tadokoro, Boscha, Ms. Chalice, Pearl, etc.) aren't put through anything messed up for example.

Last edited Jun 02, 2023 at 04:22PM EDT

Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas in pretty much every regard, except for maybe the leveling rate and the perks system (neither of which are exactly bad). I'm willing to elaborate on this.

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Spaghetto wrote:

Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas in pretty much every regard, except for maybe the leveling rate and the perks system (neither of which are exactly bad). I'm willing to elaborate on this.

Please do

I think Black Adam is legitimately great and the reason why is because of how it parallels the Shazam movie.

How both main characters weren't really the true chosen champion, how Black Adam gets his power from it being shared while Billy shares the power.

How both prove themselves that they are worthy of being the champion.

I did not like the new Spiderverse movie.

The movie has little respect for the emotional core of Spiderman, and the plot is inconsistent and arbitrary.

First, the emotional core. I do not believe that Spiderman, the concept of a street hero, should subscribe to the belief at "the needs of the many outway the needs of the one". And the fact that there is an entire Council of Ricks- sorry, I mean, the council of Spidermans that are willing to say to Miles "sorry Miles, but your dad needs to die for the good of the universe" to be very frustrating. For every Spiderman, there is at least two people who the council willingly let die. I get "having your cake and eating it too" is the core theme of the movie, but there are much better ways to tell that story while not assassinating a core value of Spiderman, because the movie tells you basically every Spiderman is okay with this, form the 60s cartoon to the video games. If that was the intention, then I fundamentally disagree with that as a plot point for a Spiderman movie.

The rules of the canon of a universe, which includes a father figure and a captain figure needing to die in every universe is also contrived and inconsistent. Miles is already stated to be an anomaly from the "canon", so why is India Spiderman's "canon" captain death caused by an interdimensional threat that only happened because of Miles actions? If Spot was caught in the India universe or before, which the Council of Spidermen wanted, then the "Canon" death of both India's Captain and Mile's Captain wouldn't happen. Furthermore, Dimension 42 has a bigger discrepancy in the fact that it doesn't even have a Spiderman when it was supposed to have one. Shouldn't that dimension and Miles dimension either be already gone, or far past saving to even worry about?

Not to mention the Sam Rami films are referenced several times, and Captain Stacy does not die in those films. Is Peter B. Parker's universe doomed because he got married again and had a child, which only happened because he was motivated by Miles's success? Even if stuff like this gets addressed in the sequel, I do not like the idea that every death scene in Spiderman is fated rather than simply being a set of natural events made by writers to enforce a theme.

The only way this can make sense is if Miguel, Spiderman 2099, is lying about everything. Including how the dimension he tried to migrate to vanished. Except Peter B. Parker can vouch that those things happened and would have likely have mentioned any inconsistencies to either Miles or Gwen already. And even if he somehow did off-screen, it doesn't make the plotline for this movie any more satisfying. It just makes me frustrated and unwilling to watch the sequel. The plot was stretched way too thin to justify being a 2-Parter.

The presentation is mixed. The visuals and cinematography are still fantastic and I'm willing to rewatch the movie on streaming just for that alone. But the audio mixing was horrible, I had to work with other people to get some parts of the plot straight because I couldn't hear what many characters were saying a lot of the time. Even if everything else I stated above wasn't an issue I have with the movie, the audio mixing alone is a massive glaring issue.

The movie is getting near-universal praise, and I don't have any desire to take that from anyone, but I'm personally very disappointed in the sequel to one of my favorite movies.

Not exactly a scalding take, but DICE's games aren't battlefront. They're fun in their own right but fail to capture (or simply deviate too much from) some important parts of the originals.

Making them their own unique series rather than trying to cling to Pandemic's work would've been a better direction.

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Kenetic Kups wrote:

Please do

Took me a bit to make my thoughts on this coherent.

The thing I usually see cited as Fallout 4's primary improvement over the previous 3D games is the gunplay, and I agree with that. It's not sophisticated or anything, but it's better, and it's good enough to feel good. The customization system helps here, though I feel it'd be a larger benefit if it were a bit more ambitious.

Visually, it looks more appealing than 3 or NV. A slight broadening of the color palette helps it keep the "world's fucked" appearance without drowning you in a sea of browns and grays for 90% of the game.

Now for the actual controversial part: I think Fallout 4 has a better story, even if the broad strokes are just a rerun of New Vegas. By that, I mean you have four paths to the end of the game, all of varying shades of gray and all embodying a different aspect of America's history. But (in part because New Vegas was developed in 18 months), Fallout 4 does it better. All major factions are actually properly fleshed out, for one. Both are obviously major improvements over whatever the hell happened in Fallout 3, of course.

I'd also say that the Fallout 4 DLCs are better than the New Vegas ones, on average, though I'd overall say that it's complicated. I'll suffice by saying that Dead Money sucks, and Lonesome Road isn't that much better.

Spaghetto wrote:

Took me a bit to make my thoughts on this coherent.

The thing I usually see cited as Fallout 4's primary improvement over the previous 3D games is the gunplay, and I agree with that. It's not sophisticated or anything, but it's better, and it's good enough to feel good. The customization system helps here, though I feel it'd be a larger benefit if it were a bit more ambitious.

Visually, it looks more appealing than 3 or NV. A slight broadening of the color palette helps it keep the "world's fucked" appearance without drowning you in a sea of browns and grays for 90% of the game.

Now for the actual controversial part: I think Fallout 4 has a better story, even if the broad strokes are just a rerun of New Vegas. By that, I mean you have four paths to the end of the game, all of varying shades of gray and all embodying a different aspect of America's history. But (in part because New Vegas was developed in 18 months), Fallout 4 does it better. All major factions are actually properly fleshed out, for one. Both are obviously major improvements over whatever the hell happened in Fallout 3, of course.

I'd also say that the Fallout 4 DLCs are better than the New Vegas ones, on average, though I'd overall say that it's complicated. I'll suffice by saying that Dead Money sucks, and Lonesome Road isn't that much better.

To be fair with "Fallout NV was developed in 18 months", they had the same ground up engine and aspects as Fallout 3, and they wasted a good chunk of that time with unrealized features that Bethesda specifically advised them to not do, such as playable super mutants.

Also the Institute isn't really grey, just stupid.

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New Vegas is a lot like Majora's Mask in that the big thing that helped make the short dev time possible was re-using the engine and assets from a game that was already finished (I remember when I played NV for the first time I easily spotted a lot of reused character models), but of course a big difference is Majora's Mask had the same developers working on it that also made Ocarina of Time, while New Vegas was a different team entirely. So while I do think Obsidian did improve upon Bethesda's work, the "hard truth" some New Vegas fanboys do have to acknowledge is a lot of the improvements were only possible thanks to Bethesda already making many of the assets and code for them first.

I will say I do indeed hope Obsidian gets another shot at Fallout in the future though, and that is entirely possible given Microsoft owns all parties involved now. Once Starfield is finished I'm sure Bethesda is going to have all hands working on Elder Scrolls 6, so if Microsoft wants a new single player Fallout in the meantime they could have Obsidian make it (and they would probably allow Obsidian to make it using Unreal rather than being forced to use Creation Engine 2).

One community that needs some gatekeeping is the vtuber community. I just watched a clip of French vtuber Saurei telling another vtuber named Onigiri that Marseilles isn't really that good of a city to visit, and good lord the amount of racism in the comments felt like being on /pol/ (so many highly upvoted comments of people saying it's "because of those immigrants", never mind there are so many other factors besides race that can lead to a city not being so great, like Detroit was once a very prosperous car making city that was mostly white, but once the plants shut down the white people who could afford to move out did but the poorer communities, which happened to be black because not many black folk could get good jobs in various industries during the days of segregation, couldn't).

Seriously it bothers the fuck out of me that general "anime/weeb" communities have so many loud as fuck racists in them and it feels like barely anyone calls out these people who want to unironically reform the Axis Powers by declaring Japan "honorary Aryan."

Huh it seems some of us have unintentionally managed to find "true neutrality" in this thread. Either no votes at all or they're equally balanced. I admit though it does make it hard to tell what's "really unpopular," though like I said many pages ago (or was it in the old thread?), up and downvotes on these sorts of threads are confusing to some extent. Are you upvoting to indicate you feel a statement is a genuinely unpopular opinion and you agree with it, or is it more accurate to say a highly downvoted comment is what's TRUELY "unpopular"?

Now this is coming from a guy born in Oklahoma City and raised in Tulsa so this is saying a lot. But I honestly don't think Timothy McVeigh was that bad of a guy. It was a federal building after all. Can you blame him?

Month long celebrations are dumb. Nothing can maintain interest that long and especially not with the same level of interest as at the start.

Even now in the second full week, pride is starting to be background noise for people. The most notable things I've seen these past few days have been political things and fuck ups. And tbh, the former is really only a thing because politics move slowly and is easily milkable by the media.

Oh hey I've got one actually fitting for this thread:

I don't give a fuck the main character of the new Prince of Persia "looks like a Tiktok zoomer," the game itself looks like it'll be fun and pretty much everyone who has gone hands on with it are saying "holy shit looks like Ubisoft will actually pull off making a fun modern game that isn't part of their usual formula." Plus I'll be real and say it really feels like too many people complaining about the character design are just actual racists trying to use the justified outrage to the Netflix Cleopatra situation to act like this is somehow on the same level. It's fucking not, Netflix Cleopatra got justified backlash because it presented itself as a factual documentary series that was extremely inaccurate. Prince of Persia has always been a fantasy series, I mean FFS the Sands of Time trilogy had time travel and demons, and you could argue the protag in PoP 1989 "didn't even look Persian" either as if you look at the graphics for the original release the protag's skin tone looks more peach toned, AND he's got blonde hair, something I'm pretty sure was very rare in ancient Persia (the visuals in the first game were made by rotoscoping Jordan Mechner's brother, who is white, and even then the protag design wasn't consistent in other ports as some ports like SNES and Genesis did darken his skin tone considerably, the versions for Japanese gaming PCs and Sega CD made him look the same as a "fair skinned anime boy").

Not sure how unpopular these opinions are, but off the top of my head:

"It's bad" and "it's not for me" are not the same. They aren't mutually exclusive, but disliking something doesn't make it objectively bad and too many people struggle with that concept.

I don't get the appeal of speedrunning games, specially the any % runs. Obsessively learning the game and how to deliberately break it in order to play as little of it as possible seems weird and pointless to me.

I actually like the frequent re-releases and remasters of older games, as long as they're properly done. It gives old fans a chance to experience the classics again and new fans can enjoy them for the first time.

Ergonomic Chair wrote:

Gatekeeping isn't inherently a bad thing and i'm absolutely sick of people denying this.

The people who say gatekeeping is bad are the ones who will infiltrate your communities then gatekeep YOU out of it.

Devilizing Mickey Mouse as to mock the Walt Disney Company is overplayed and it’d be more creative to use a Disney villain like Pete, Bill Cipher, Negaduck, Glomgold, Jafar, Maleficent, The Core, Bradford Buzzard, or Belos for example

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The memescape of the past was better than it is now. But I don't think the memes themselves were as good as people reminisce. Or rather, they (as a whole) wouldn't hold up to the same degree if they were created in 2023.

Last edited Jun 24, 2023 at 09:43AM EDT

The Irish and Welsh mythologies are heavily euhemerized, but I personally believe this to be a pro and not a con because it makes them more unique and, in my opinion, more relatable in an alternate universe where we had ancient sources on them, assuming the ancient Celts even had a complete stratified mythology, because the truth is that we have no evidence for that. They would have probably just followed the same boring motifs and patterns as other Indo-European mythologies and lacked the uniqueness the current ones have.

I think people who use the word "tankie/s" don't know what it means and where it originated from, but it's always like "everyone that doesn't align to my ideas/beliefs/views/opinion/whatever is a tankie"; it evolved to being a buzzword over time.

The Human Element wrote:

I think people who use the word "tankie/s" don't know what it means and where it originated from, but it's always like "everyone that doesn't align to my ideas/beliefs/views/opinion/whatever is a tankie"; it evolved to being a buzzword over time.

It’s a shame that the left is predisposed to infighting. Ignoring the “communism has never been tried” meme for a moment, most of their ideas, and all of my favorites from them, don’t pan out.

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Oh heres a good one for y'all, unpopular opinion where I hang around.

First of all let me preface by saying, we all like our hobbies to be a particular way and thats great

That being said gatekeeping is embarassing behaviour and doesnt even work. In my experience playing tabletops and other nerd behaviours, the people that tried gatekeeping were unpopular and annoying and nobody liked actually playing with em, so they werent even gatekeeping anyone.

The whole thing feels more like nerds quietly high fiving each other in corners of the internet (like here) fantasizing about how cool they will be when one day they stop undesirables from joining.

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Misspelled Tiger wrote:

Oh heres a good one for y'all, unpopular opinion where I hang around.

First of all let me preface by saying, we all like our hobbies to be a particular way and thats great

That being said gatekeeping is embarassing behaviour and doesnt even work. In my experience playing tabletops and other nerd behaviours, the people that tried gatekeeping were unpopular and annoying and nobody liked actually playing with em, so they werent even gatekeeping anyone.

The whole thing feels more like nerds quietly high fiving each other in corners of the internet (like here) fantasizing about how cool they will be when one day they stop undesirables from joining.

I have been gatekept before

Which explains why I sometimes get disgusted whenever I see elitist behavior among those who I don’t think deserves to.

This goes back to when I was a kid, well before I even knew about kym

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I dunno if this really counts but I think People are over exaggerating about the Library in Halo CE. It's really not that bad, and I'd rather play the library over and over again over playing the last part with the two wraiths on two betrayals

Hazbin Hotel looks damn cringy Helluva Boss will probably be better than Hazbin Hotel when it finally comes out and Helluva Boss is far from a masterpiece too.

The gay femboy character gets old quickly, nobody in hell is actually suffering and everyone in hell seem to deserve being in hell so I sure aint invested in the protagonist getting people to heaven, what is so special about heaven anyway? The story gets very melodramatic with how goofy and intentional stupid the setting of Hell is All things that Helluva boss while far from perfect doesnt have the problem with.

Hell ironically Helluva Boss may have messed up because the little it showed about heaven seems to indicate there is a high high chance that Heaven is a dystopian hellhole similar to hell so it unintentionally added to the question of why care about the protagonist winning or loosing? They seem to live in an awful crapsack world anyway regardless of which of the three realms you are. This works great for Helluva Boss….but it will probably work against Hazbin Hotel..oops

Add the fact the show has taken so long to come out so I assume its stuck in development hell and I assume Hazbin Hotel will be quite bad when it finally comes out.

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(All right, let's try this one more time.)

The Souls-like genre is not a bust; the only reason people think it is is because of the very early failed attempts by some big studios at making their own Souls-likes like Lords of The Fallen, but that was years ago, and we have come a long way since then. There have been a lot of pretty good Souls-likes these past years; examples include

-Hollow Knight and Blasphemous (yes, I am aware that those are also Medtroidvanias and are mostly seen as just that, but the influence of the genre is impossible to ignore)

-Salt and Sanctuary (and its sequel, Sacrifice)

-Nioh 1 and 2

-Dark Devotion 

-Eldest Souls

-Code Vein (this one really needs a sequel)

-Ashen

-Little Witch Nobeta

-Necropolis (This one had a kind of rough launch, and by the time the developers fixed it, many people had written it off, but it's actually pretty good.)

-Mortal Shell (This one sadly fell victim to being made by a small team that just didn't put in as much effort as some other indie teams, thus resulting in it feeling unfinished.)

-Tails of Iron

And of course, the currently still unreleased but pretty promising so far Lies of P and The Lords of the Fallen (a reboot of the first one)

Excitebot theLEGO wrote:

Nowadays? Yes. Back in the 10's and even some of the 2000s? Hard no.

I think it's frankly surprising how much 4chan has contributed to meme culture, considering its relatively small userbase (compared to Twitter and mid-10's Tumblr) and its generally negative reputation.

Perhaps 4chan's relevance in meme culture has gone down with time because of its worsening reputation and popularity.

Devilizing Mickey Mouse as to mock the Walt Disney Company is overplayed and it’d be more creative to use a Disney villain like Pete, Bill Cipher, Negaduck, Glomgold, Jafar, Maleficent, The Core, Bradford Buzzard, or Belos for example

Except Mickey Mouse is the face of Disney. None of those villains would have the same impact as the average folk will either associate those villains with their respective series or not even recognize them at all. Mickey, on the other hand, is far more recognizable and is more of a company logo than a character.

Evil Mickey may be trite, but it's what works the best.

just because it's made in japan doesn't mean it's good

Hence things like kusoge (shit games).

Heres mine: Metroid Other M was fine.

Yeah, yeah, cringe story, PTSD scene, Varia Suit, search sections, etc. and so forth. Heard it a million times. Rarely if ever do those bother me.

Heres what i can say in the games favor:

I don't think people give the unique style enough credit on the style. I love the 2.5d approach, the environments are pretty cool, you get to see a lot of classic metroid elements mixed with prime's, and on average had some of the best boss fights in the series.

It's also surprisingly kinetic when you know what you're doing, and the slow parts get better when you can skip most of them in a second playthrough. 100%ing doesn't feel nearly as much of a chore compared to literally any other game. And Hard Mode completely does away with that, period. (Oh yeah, hard mode is pretty satisfying too.) Accel charges were a neat powerup, and reserve tanks actually feel useful.

Also, Anthony Higgs was an absolute bro, and I'd love to see him again in another installment.

Personally, I'd give it a solid 7/10. Not a masterpiece, but definitely not god-awful like everyone says it is.

Lately I been finding it harder and harder to care about current political topics, politics just seems to get dumber and pettier as time goes on.

I lost a good part of what few remained of my faith in humanity with the bud light controversy bullshit and the howarts legacy bullshit.

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No!! wrote:

One of the things I aint caring about is the debate in the thread of pedophilia drawings and shit, I regret getting into that mess and posting there in the first place tbh.

I'm avoiding that thread.

Only comment I'm going to make is I hope those some of those involved will be self-aware the next time there's a "LGBT Groomer" controversy entry. Seeing someone who's all for banning books while arguing for their right to enjoy pedophilia drawings is pretty ugly.

No!! wrote:

One of the things I aint caring about is the debate in the thread of pedophilia drawings and shit, I regret getting into that mess and posting there in the first place tbh.

I generally stay out of those kinds of arguments, since they literally go nowhere, and that's simply not very fun.

We should seriously, and I mean seriously not default to hating the newer generations of people just because the previous ones have overall mainly tried to ruin us and we don't necessarily comprehend everything about gen Z or Alpha.
They're the future anyway.

Soyjaks can be funny especially when they delve into absurdist post-ironic territory.
/pol/ is over-hated and is the only thing keeping this site from becoming an unfunny pseudo-leftist circle-jerk. No, I have never used /pol/.
You will get more productive discussion on 4chan than you ever will on twitter.
I find it odd that the same people who talk about "punching up, not down" when it comes to humor tend to do a 180 and proceed to make fun of and relentlessly shit on anti-social virgins.
Yes, the generations are getting worse and it started with the Greatest Generation failing to raise Boomers correctly, who then failed to raise their kids correctly, and so on. But when you shit on a younger generation just remember that yours isn't that much better and this shit has been going on for a good while.
Just because you don't find something funny doesn't mean you have the right to tear it down or silence it.
Violence targeted at politicians and corporate CEOs is always morally correct.
Tears of the Kingdom isn't really all that great.
The modern Team Fortress 2 fandom is painfully unfunny and is filled with children, manchildren, furries, and actual groomers.
The only actual "unpopular opinions" in this thread are the ones with a negative score.

Politics have become so polarized in recent years that I don't find it worth discussing. It tends to break down into pointless tribalism and an "us vs. them" mentality. Nearly every time I see people referring to "the leftists" or "the conservatives" as a single monolithic antagonistic entity I find it's not worth engaging with them. That's not to mention some people on this site seem to have some pretty questionable political opinions which I'd rather avoid like the plague.

I don't hate the newer generations by default, but I am concerned about the effects of unsupervised Internet use from a very young age might have on them. I worry particularly about the newest generations, growing up consuming TikTok stuff and the like can't be great for their developing minds.

I dont care what twitter sometimes say, younger generations are NOT getting kinder or more compassionate, that is not AT ALL what is happening.

Millenials and Zoomers are mean as fuck just like all previous generations I dont know where this idea of them being so much more "sensitive" is coming from (yes that includes me, I mean obviously I aint nice at all)

I thought I was the one most guilty of using this thread more as a place to vent, but man most of ya'll are just as guilty as I am. And funny enough this comment I'm making actually does in fact fit THIS thread because some of ya'll are likely going to consider it unpopular of me to make this "pot calling the kettle black" callout post.

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