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Last posted Jul 27, 2024 at 05:13AM EDT. Added Oct 26, 2021 at 11:27PM EDT
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Edgar Weebling wrote:

Undertale is a good game…

But I would be saying lies if I said that its not mostly carried by its story.

Yeah besides the cool story it is pretty lacking in content.

Combining rpg and bullet hell has a ton of potential…but is a potential only barely explored by undertale, there could be A LOT more rpg elements added gameplay-wise.

The puzzles are decent at least but even then there arent that many.

The story is really good though

Last edited Jan 26, 2024 at 02:04PM EST

Edgar Weebling wrote:

Undertale is a good game…

But I would be saying lies if I said that its not mostly carried by its story.

Yeah the gameplay is why I consider Deltarune to be better than Undertale.

No!! wrote:

Yeah besides the cool story it is pretty lacking in content.

Combining rpg and bullet hell has a ton of potential…but is a potential only barely explored by undertale, there could be A LOT more rpg elements added gameplay-wise.

The puzzles are decent at least but even then there arent that many.

The story is really good though

Another problem is its difficulty, apart from maybe two bossfights. Most of the battles are extremely easy.

And apparently this was done on purpose to "be accessible to everyone," and I am really not a fan of this decision because it sounds way too much like the arguments that modern game journalists love to throw around, and if anything, it just makes the case about this being "a story with a game" instead of "a game with a story" even worse.

Edgar Weebling wrote:

Another problem is its difficulty, apart from maybe two bossfights. Most of the battles are extremely easy.

And apparently this was done on purpose to "be accessible to everyone," and I am really not a fan of this decision because it sounds way too much like the arguments that modern game journalists love to throw around, and if anything, it just makes the case about this being "a story with a game" instead of "a game with a story" even worse.

I think reading that game is "be accessible to everyone" and thinking about game journalists is an unhealthy mindset tbh

And I couldnt find anything about that, I actually found a chat between Yoko Taro and Toby Fox and he said

"But nowadays in the U.S, there are a lot of people who like games that aren't too hard so people were saying that UNDERTALE was too hard even though its focus is on the characters and story. They said that there would be people who couldn't finish the game because of the difficulty. But I thought because this is my game I'm going to make it how I like. If this doesn't work for you I'm sorry…"

And

"As I said there was the opinion that the game was "too difficult" but I think that UNDERTALE is liked by most players. However to be honest I was surprised about that. UNDERTALE was made with hardcore fans of games in mind. I thought that people who play more story-oriented games wouldn't play this sort of game"

So it seemed like he had a difficulty in mind and just expected a certain kind of players to get to it, but it became such a hit that more people decided to try it, I never though the game as being advertised as challenging except for the genocide bosses which were supposed to be a surprise challenge.

Idk I think Undertale is one of those "more than the sum of its parts" game

Also to add an unpopular opinion to keep it rolling

If you have the vatican city flag on your name, your opinion counts less than anyone else, including bots

The worst opinions and takes I have ever seen have come from such people

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Sheeps44 wrote:

Palworld will be forgotten in about a month.

Don't think it'll be that soon but I don't really see it having too much staying power.

Then again apparently it's more like Arc and I don't know much about that and its playerbase.

I hate David Paulides and his Missing 411 tripe, I think he's a hack fraud, a charlatan. His books have brought forth a batch of conspiracy theorists that mirrors Flath-Earthers, but only slightly less retarded. They are a surprisingly large and prevalent circle among outdoor communities, or at least pretend to be, whenever a missing case rears it head inside US national parks.

Are a few of these missing cases strange and/or possibly nefarious? sure, but to chalk them all up to some ethereal boogeyman ranging from government abductions, serial killers, or fucking bigfoot as Paulides likely believes, is insanity. I really don't care what these people sincerely believe, but this is a horrible mindset to have about the outdoors. It downplays and misattributes the very real natural dangers these places are a host to and belittles the selfless efforts of S&R volunteers who risk life & limb to find missing cases.

Misspelled Tiger wrote:

I think reading that game is "be accessible to everyone" and thinking about game journalists is an unhealthy mindset tbh

And I couldnt find anything about that, I actually found a chat between Yoko Taro and Toby Fox and he said

"But nowadays in the U.S, there are a lot of people who like games that aren't too hard so people were saying that UNDERTALE was too hard even though its focus is on the characters and story. They said that there would be people who couldn't finish the game because of the difficulty. But I thought because this is my game I'm going to make it how I like. If this doesn't work for you I'm sorry…"

And

"As I said there was the opinion that the game was "too difficult" but I think that UNDERTALE is liked by most players. However to be honest I was surprised about that. UNDERTALE was made with hardcore fans of games in mind. I thought that people who play more story-oriented games wouldn't play this sort of game"

So it seemed like he had a difficulty in mind and just expected a certain kind of players to get to it, but it became such a hit that more people decided to try it, I never though the game as being advertised as challenging except for the genocide bosses which were supposed to be a surprise challenge.

Idk I think Undertale is one of those "more than the sum of its parts" game

Also to add an unpopular opinion to keep it rolling

If you have the vatican city flag on your name, your opinion counts less than anyone else, including bots

The worst opinions and takes I have ever seen have come from such people

>Reading game is "be accessible to everyone" and thinking about game journalists is an unhealthy mindset
Fair enough, I think the problem comes from how Game Journalists are incredibly incompetent at their Jobs to the point it is just cringeworthy.
>If you have the vatican city flag on your name, your opinion counts less than anyone else, including bots
Hot and unpopular take: Change that to people with LGBT/current political lanscape flags with pronouns on bio, almost every time I read their opinions it feels that these people allow their biases to cloud their judgement with poorly formulated opinions fueled by lack of infromation, to the point they deliberately lie and treat anyone who disagrees or refures their arguments as enemies that must be eliminated, you can have your opinions on the political landscape and support whoever you feel deserves it, but do your homework, be open to new information and to change your opinions based on that information(character development) and understand that people with different opinions have the right to have them and treating them with scorn will just make them double down out of spite.

Kitty Katswell wrote:

>Reading game is "be accessible to everyone" and thinking about game journalists is an unhealthy mindset
Fair enough, I think the problem comes from how Game Journalists are incredibly incompetent at their Jobs to the point it is just cringeworthy.
>If you have the vatican city flag on your name, your opinion counts less than anyone else, including bots
Hot and unpopular take: Change that to people with LGBT/current political lanscape flags with pronouns on bio, almost every time I read their opinions it feels that these people allow their biases to cloud their judgement with poorly formulated opinions fueled by lack of infromation, to the point they deliberately lie and treat anyone who disagrees or refures their arguments as enemies that must be eliminated, you can have your opinions on the political landscape and support whoever you feel deserves it, but do your homework, be open to new information and to change your opinions based on that information(character development) and understand that people with different opinions have the right to have them and treating them with scorn will just make them double down out of spite.

>Game Journalists are incredibly incompetent at their Jobs to the point it is just cringeworthy.

Yeah and thats why I dont think about em, ever.

>Hot and unpopular take: Change that to people with LGBT/current political lanscape flags with pronouns on bio

Thats a cold-ass take lmao, especially among any right-of-center person on twitter, and trust me I was including them in my comment, you can have any other country flag, lgbt flag, swastikas or whatever and your takes wont be as bad as people with Vatican flags and we dont bully em enough for it.

Unpopular opinion….eh, Youtube rewinds werent that bad, at least before the "So proud of this community" one, they were silly in a harmless way and they felt overhated.

Kitty Katswell wrote:

almost every time I read their opinions it feels that these people allow their biases to cloud their judgement with poorly formulated opinions fueled by lack of infromation, to the point they deliberately lie and treat anyone who disagrees or refures their arguments as enemies that must be eliminated, you can have your opinions on the political landscape and support whoever you feel deserves it, but do your homework, be open to new information and to change your opinions based on that information(character development) and understand that people with different opinions have the right to have them and treating them with scorn will just make them double down out of spite.

In a vacuum, not pointing fingers at any one group, I wholeheartedly agree with this, and I do not think many consider it a hot take. Anyone who pretends it isn't an issue with their own side is either painfully naive or a propagandist. A post like that only starts to become a "hot take" when the author doesn't hold themselves to the same standard as they expect from others and start passing judgment on people unprompted.

Jill wrote:

Kitty Katswell wrote:

almost every time I read their opinions it feels that these people allow their biases to cloud their judgement with poorly formulated opinions fueled by lack of infromation, to the point they deliberately lie and treat anyone who disagrees or refures their arguments as enemies that must be eliminated, you can have your opinions on the political landscape and support whoever you feel deserves it, but do your homework, be open to new information and to change your opinions based on that information(character development) and understand that people with different opinions have the right to have them and treating them with scorn will just make them double down out of spite.

In a vacuum, not pointing fingers at any one group, I wholeheartedly agree with this, and I do not think many consider it a hot take. Anyone who pretends it isn't an issue with their own side is either painfully naive or a propagandist. A post like that only starts to become a "hot take" when the author doesn't hold themselves to the same standard as they expect from others and start passing judgment on people unprompted.

Thanks for reminding me

Edgar Weebling wrote:

I much prefer Tim Burton's Chocolate Factory from "05 to the Mel Stuart one from "71.

Wait, liking Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is an unpopular opinion? Maybe it's just because I grew up with it, but that movie was awesome! I very much prefer it to the other 2.

BackAlleyWizard wrote:

Wait, liking Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is an unpopular opinion? Maybe it's just because I grew up with it, but that movie was awesome! I very much prefer it to the other 2.

I'm pretty sure the unpopular part is saying you like Tim Burton's adaptation more than the 1971 film. I like both versions equally, but ask the general public what they think it seems most of the time you have people saying "nothing beats the original" (there's also a constant misconception Tim Burton's movie is a remake of the 1971 film when it's really not, it's a separate adaptation of the same source material, which is "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" by Roald Dahl; even Gene Wilder, who played Willy Wonka in the 1971 film, erroneously called Tim Burton's adaptation a "remake"). You can even see this in the recent prequel movie starring Timothee Chalamet, as that movie opted to specifically act as a prequel to the 1971 film (as the Oompa Loompas in Wonka have orange skin and green hair like in the 1971 movie).

Whoops, yeah, I moreso meant preferring Tim Burton's adaptation over the other two movies than just liking it at all.

On a semi-related note, have they released any new Willy Wonka-themed candies recently? I vaguely remember them doing that to promote the other 2 movies with lukewarm reception, and I'm curious if they tried it again with Wonka.

Most forms of extreme metal fucking stink. (Except Thrash that one can be kinda good some times) Not just because of its sound, but because of its "culture."

This obsession (or downright fetishization in some cases) with nonconformity just never stops making me cringe because it's not nearly as deep as they make it out to be. In fact, it is more self-absorbed and pseudo-intelligent than anything. 

And black metal is the place where this stupid "culture" started. And I am still baffled by how it was born. "Oh, hey, a bunch of moral guardians are accusing our music of satanism. Let's outright become living embodiments of every stereotype we are accused of, but not as a joke; no, we are legit, we do indeed worship Satan, and we do indeed hate Christianity and the world." I like to say that black metal is an unironic black face for metal, and I fully stand behind that statement. 

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Edgar Weebling wrote:

Most forms of extreme metal fucking stink. (Except Thrash that one can be kinda good some times) Not just because of its sound, but because of its "culture."

This obsession (or downright fetishization in some cases) with nonconformity just never stops making me cringe because it's not nearly as deep as they make it out to be. In fact, it is more self-absorbed and pseudo-intelligent than anything. 

And black metal is the place where this stupid "culture" started. And I am still baffled by how it was born. "Oh, hey, a bunch of moral guardians are accusing our music of satanism. Let's outright become living embodiments of every stereotype we are accused of, but not as a joke; no, we are legit, we do indeed worship Satan, and we do indeed hate Christianity and the world." I like to say that black metal is an unironic black face for metal, and I fully stand behind that statement. 

I used to hate harsh vocals but now I don't mind them. Some forms like old school death metal, prog death and melodic eath are fine, but deathcore, slam and brutal death metal are nearly unlistenable.

"This obsession (or downright fetishization in some cases) with nonconformity just never stops making me cringe because it's not nearly as deep as they make it out to be. In fact, it is more self-absorbed and pseudo-intelligent than anything."
I really don't think Cannibal Corpse or Deicide try to be deep, they just try to be shocking.

GeneHunt wrote:

Even the lewd ones?

Assuming we're talking about nukige and not just ones with sex in it, don't think I've actually played a lewd one before.

But I can't see myself caring as much if it's just hentai stuff.

I find myself out of the loop with the constant recent gaming controversies (like the whole helldivers stuff) because while (definetly not always but often) I prefer vastly to buy games that are like a couple of years old cause gaming is expensive and I am a cheap bitch who loves discounts and free shit.

Been playing Rayman Legends which was already super cheap and I got it on a 80% discount, also bought mortal kombat 1, 2 and 3 the super old ones from the 90s arcade in GOG to see what they were all about.

Also been emulating super paper mario which is quite fun (wanted to buy it but nintendo sure aint making that easy anymore….oh well)

Like newer games have stopped looking better each year, have stopped having more content and running better a while ago already so there is very little disadvantages to buying older shit.

2010s games imo especially have aged AMAZINGLY well counting how not many useful technological developments (no, ai art DOES NOT count) have happened as of late.

Also if anything AAA modern gaming is getting WORSE over time, every time there is more greedy microtransaction bullshit so why not go back and shit?

No!! wrote:

I find myself out of the loop with the constant recent gaming controversies (like the whole helldivers stuff) because while (definetly not always but often) I prefer vastly to buy games that are like a couple of years old cause gaming is expensive and I am a cheap bitch who loves discounts and free shit.

Been playing Rayman Legends which was already super cheap and I got it on a 80% discount, also bought mortal kombat 1, 2 and 3 the super old ones from the 90s arcade in GOG to see what they were all about.

Also been emulating super paper mario which is quite fun (wanted to buy it but nintendo sure aint making that easy anymore….oh well)

Like newer games have stopped looking better each year, have stopped having more content and running better a while ago already so there is very little disadvantages to buying older shit.

2010s games imo especially have aged AMAZINGLY well counting how not many useful technological developments (no, ai art DOES NOT count) have happened as of late.

Also if anything AAA modern gaming is getting WORSE over time, every time there is more greedy microtransaction bullshit so why not go back and shit?

I've pretty much chosen to ignore the gaming controversies that seem to pop up every other week. Everytime it feels like people making a mountain of a molehill, or otherwise just shit not worth wasting your breath on. Still plan on buying Helldivers 2 in the near future so I can play it with friends who already own it.

As far as modern gaming goes, I've been leaning towards indies recently. Most of my wishlist consists of indie titles I've seen either through game shows or because someone on Discord was talking about it.

Hell, the only game I'm really looking forward at the moment to is pretty much a spiritual successor to Blockland since development was abandoned a LONG time ago.

While I know I'm a bit infamous around here as "the resident Nintendo apologist," one big reason why I still love the company's games is because Nintendo is one of the only big name "AAA" studios that is very consistent in keeping their games high quality and well worth the price a good 95% of the time. The devs alone have proven they're so amazing at what they do that I legit stopped giving a shit at most of the controversies the corporate side of the company have caused like DMCAing fan games or suing emulators, because the corporate side has no effect on the game dev side. And even then the corporate side isn't nearly as evil as other game companies. It feels like literally every single AAA studio this past year has been hit with mass layoffs, and even Microsoft and Sony aren't immune. Nintendo however? No layoffs, and hell their employees got a raise this past year that was higher than the industry standard, and with Nintendo being named "richest company in Japan" recently you know they're not hurting for money in the slightest.

As such this is why I often groan when I see people saying shit like "it's morally okay to pirate any and all Nintendo games" because it's absolutely not fair to punish the DEVELOPERS because you're pissed off at the corporate side DMCAing a fan game or suing an emulator like Yuzu. Now if we're talking an older game Nintendo ain't selling anymore then okay sure pirate the shit out of it, no one's losing money over it. But if we're talking a game that's on the market you can still buy in a store then yes I will say you're being an ass towards the devs by pirating it.

Nintendo however? No layoffs, and hell their employees got a raise this past year that was higher than the industry standard, and with Nintendo being named "richest company in Japan" recently you know they're not hurting for money in the slightest.

iirc Japan has some pretty nifty labor laws as far as layoffs are concerned. 30 day notice, or a severance package equivalent to 30 days worth of pay. And for mass layoffs, there's a bunch of legal loops businesses have to jump through for it to be approved. Which is a bit ironic considering how much people dunk on them for their work culture.

In Nintendo's case, it's probably easier for them to weather through their financial downturn if they were to have to than to do mass layoffs. You probably heard that story of how Iwata didn't layoff anyone and took a cut to his own salary instead when the WiiU failed to meet expectations. Actual chad shit, but it was probably the best choice they could've made, it was either losing money they already had stored up or reducing the deficit and smashing morale in the process.

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I believe that classism is bad. We shouldn't treat people differently and look at them as being beneath us because they belong to a lower class or are less wealthy than us. Now, all this may not sound like an unpopular take, but here's the thing: I believe that this should be applied to those that are of a higher class than us too! We shouldn't treat someone as undeniably evil and hate them because they belong to a higher class than us. People are complex and fluid, and to put them all in one basket and hate them all simply for their class is dumb and hugely unjustified. 

  • Given the announcement of Pokémon Legends ZA and with it, the return of Mega Evolution, I wanna just say that I feel like Mawile and Sableye shouldn't have gotten Mega Evolutions and should've just gotten regular evolutions. Mainly since their regular BST isn't too good and seeing as Megas were absent in Gen 8 and 9, they were back to being weak Pokémon.
  • Now for an unpopular opinion I used to have, I always looked at fan made designs for an evolution of Lapras and thinking that it'd be a bit much mainly since the fact that Lapras' has a BST of 535 came to mind.

Then we got Archaludon who evolves from Duraludon who also has a BST of 535 and gets a BST of 600 and I've changed my tune. Now I want to see Lapras get an evolution.

  • Lastly, I would love to see Game Freak create pre-evolutions again. Just as long as they make said pre-evolutions as something to catch in the early game instead of making them breeding only Pokémon.

Think how Budew, the pre-evolution to Roselia was available early on in Route 204 and Eterna Forest when it first appeared in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl.

I think having pre-evolutions be handled similarly to Budew would be a good way to let players access certain Pokémon early on without snapping the early game in half. Helps that it would make the early game a bit more varied.

(I know you can get Flamigo early on in Scarlet and Violet but you had to go out of your way to do so given that it was off the beaten path)

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Faith is a far darker and more sinister emotion than people give it credit for.

Faith gives you conviction and can make you care and also gives you willpower which is good but it can often take your conviction and twists it into something way darker and more fanatical.

People full of faith can very often do terrible things in the name of what they see as good look at the crusades, the witch trials, etc or far more recent and far less extreme the Howarts Legacy boycott and all the people who got doxxed during Gamergate.

Religion treats faith as an inherent virtue but like…faith is an emotion, a selfless and positive emotion but like… all emotions (including love, acceptance and hope) can become evil as shit.

As someone that's a fan of Fallout but doesn't watch TV or anything beyond Youtube, the Fallout show doesn't give me any interest or concern. I can't really care much for whatever "butchering" it does to Fallout lore since I already treat video game based movies and shows as a wholly separate entity from the games they are based on.

Not sure how much of a hot take this is but i consider Loremaster to be a downgrade from Azazel. The change takes away everything i liked about Azazel and replaces it with what is pretty much a completely different character.

YeetYeetAwoo wrote:

Most of Love, Death & Robots is kinda meh.

I never got around to watching past the first season, but I remember enjoying it a lot because of how unique each episode was in its artstyle and storytelling. I'm guessing it got the Black Mirror treatment and lost its charm after a season or two?

MisterZygarde64 wrote:

  • Given the announcement of Pokémon Legends ZA and with it, the return of Mega Evolution, I wanna just say that I feel like Mawile and Sableye shouldn't have gotten Mega Evolutions and should've just gotten regular evolutions. Mainly since their regular BST isn't too good and seeing as Megas were absent in Gen 8 and 9, they were back to being weak Pokémon.
  • Now for an unpopular opinion I used to have, I always looked at fan made designs for an evolution of Lapras and thinking that it'd be a bit much mainly since the fact that Lapras' has a BST of 535 came to mind.

Then we got Archaludon who evolves from Duraludon who also has a BST of 535 and gets a BST of 600 and I've changed my tune. Now I want to see Lapras get an evolution.

  • Lastly, I would love to see Game Freak create pre-evolutions again. Just as long as they make said pre-evolutions as something to catch in the early game instead of making them breeding only Pokémon.

Think how Budew, the pre-evolution to Roselia was available early on in Route 204 and Eterna Forest when it first appeared in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl.

I think having pre-evolutions be handled similarly to Budew would be a good way to let players access certain Pokémon early on without snapping the early game in half. Helps that it would make the early game a bit more varied.

(I know you can get Flamigo early on in Scarlet and Violet but you had to go out of your way to do so given that it was off the beaten path)

The pokémon that should have a pre-evolution by now is Kangaskhan. It should have had one in Gen II. I would think that a Furret evolution that adds an Ice Typing would be fun (I know Normal/Ice is an awful Typing, but it would be unique).

Last Respects and Rage Fist should cap out at 150 Base Power, of course. But a really spicy opinion would be something like how HMs wouldn't have been that bad if the moves were actually good, like Surf, and had more Type variety. Cut being made Bug works wonders in the ROM hacks that do that, for example.

Oh hot damn I'm shocked I disagree with you THIS much Edgar. I absolutely love the classic "Playboy bunny" outfit, it manages to feel like a great mix of "sexy" and "fun."

Also oh boy here I come with yet another "Fortune makes a rant about a select portion of the KYM community" once again that I expect will result in a comment where the up-to-downvote ratio will be perfectly balanced. This is something I specifically first said in response to a comment made by Concerned Rifleman on the "Gay Pop Discourse" entry where he said "why do the gays need their own culture?" and here's what I responded with:

I feel like pointing out it's a bit weird that on KYM specifically it's a bit odd when it comes to something like "gringos imposing themselves on Hispanics" a lot of users will go "fucking gringos, leave their culture alone." Yet when it's LGBT folk apparently we're not allowed to have any sort of "culture"? Like some of ya'll are weirdly selective on which "minority groups" ya'll will stick up for when it comes to "respecting their culture." And before you respond with "how are they remotely similar?" sexuality and gender identity are things you're born with in the same way you're born with your ethnic background. I don't see why a gay person, bi person, or trans person can't have pride in their identity in the same way an Irish person, a Mexican, or an American can be proud of their cultural background.

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