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Mate you have quite the history of transphobic comments, didn't read the rest as I'm half asleep but I see the reasoning behind it

So listen,

I was going to go do one of my TL;DR posts that I normally make in response to these "why was user banned" threads.

But looking at things… for better or worse, KYM has made effort to get high Google ranking and… you also have information floating around online that someone could connect to a real person.

Pretty much everything I would post is publicly available, but actually finding it would be difficult if you didn't know where and how to search. My post would aggregate this and… yeah. No fan of yours personally, but I would hate to do something that could actually impact you IRL. Most of the other users I've done this with in the past had relativly random names that are meaningless so I didn't have this hesitation. You… are different.

I would not link to or suggest how to find any potentially doxxing information. In case anyone else thinks to do it, this does break rules and will be enforced. However, lots of employers do basic internet searches nowadays and I wouldn't be surprised if this thread might be a hit on a search engine.

You are already banned. We can talk, but I can pretty much guarantee it will not be overturned. And if you honestly believe that "votes makes you right" you can check the tally on your post right now. If you deactivate and drop it, then I'll lock the thread and we'll forget this. If you insist on continuing, I will proceed with said post.

I get moving on is hard. You had several years to improve. I will gladly highlight to the community several instances of this. But I want to offer you one more chance to move on of your own accord.

>there is to be no persecution for "ban-evasion" here

The KYM rules linked above your profile when you are signed in say under BASIC RULES: "Do not attempt to evade a suspension or ban. Using an alternate account, proxy IP address, or other means of evading a ban are strictly prohibited. Violation of this rule may result in an extended suspension period, or in a permanent ban."

As I establish in my report, I tried resolving this privately using three different venues, and was ghosted for MONTHS before resorting to this. How else am I supposed to get this resolved, then?

By moving on and not coming back until you can prove you've turned a new leaf ?

'cause transphobic stuff aside, you're acting like your life is on the line here.

Can anyone show more examples like the Bloodborne Kart one? I know that op has been an asshole before, but this is the first I've ever heard of him going that far, and apparently there's way more where that came from. How many other comments like that has he made? Does it get worse?

When I went to KYM's Discord to resolve the matter, contacting the admin privately, I was banned from the discord server without cause nor response

They did you a favor there lol

I really tried. I really fucking tried. I don’t normally like delving into the nitty gritty of user bans. I would rather have users just move on with their lives off of KYM. This is especially true given the information in my above post. I goddamn tried, but I can’t any fucking more.

Normally I’d have fun posting memes in response to something like this, pointing out various issues. The conflating of mods as “site administrators”, the characterization of being banned as “deactivated against my will”, that a comment having a net positive score somehow overrides if it breaks rules or not.

But this is different.

You state “comments of similar and worse negativity are commonplace on the site without receiving staff action against them and the users who make them.”

Post-GamerGate, a lot of people have some really strong opinions on free speech and equate removing rule breaking comments to “censorship”. However, and I hope other mods take note, there’s another reason I maintain they should be kept up. Every once in a while a user, after repeatedly breaking the rules asserts THEY DID NOTHING WRONG and attempts to bring this to the court of public opinion. They request things like “any other users reading this to join me” and have a narrative that makes a few relevant omissions. And sure, mods can make screenshots, and we do make backups just in case. But where possible, I like to directly link to the comments in question.

So Moleman, felt that it was unfair that you felt “it is unacceptable for me to even want them [objectionable comments] to be seen and evaluated in the first place.”?
Fine. LET US FUCKING RECTIFY THAT.

ACT I: Absolutely Nothing Said Was Out of Line

MoleManninethoudand (henceforth MM9K) is, in his own words ”Openly transphobic and not fucking sorry” but simultaneously believes "’Transphobia’ is not a valid word because the attitude it refers to is entirely correct and should not be stigmatized at all.”
He has described being trans as ignorance of physical reality and a personal concession made to satisfy unnatural feelings for the sake of the other parts of one's sanity. It's like vaping or nicotine patch as opposed to smoking; it's a bad habit embraced as a compromise instead of something that would end up destroying a person. The ideal outcome of gender-delusion feelings is obviously to get over them by accepting what one physically is. Transitioning is viewed as a resort to delusional transformation choosing to absolutely refuse to recognize their delusion as reality.

One suspension had two comments listed, another had five. These suspensions where met with replies. Some of these responses are more recent, but for the sake of flow, and since it is over the same comments, I’ll highlight them together.

Moleman then proceeds to mass report this perceived injustice to other mods. From the message shared with me:

Oh, but we’re just getting started.
MM9K accused Artichoke of sockpuppeting and manipulating votes back in the Steve posting days, implying he should be banned for it while providing no evidence for it. Remember this for later.

Plus there’s this pretty aggressive attitude toward Bill-stan (hey, remember when Bill-stan was still on the site? Ever wonder why Bill-stan isn’t around anymore?)

As you might be able to gather from some of the suspension responses, I did actually try to have some conversations. After all, I’d rather change the mind of someone who shows promise than to solely be antagonistic, even if an attempt lead to MM9K accusing me of thinking I am “okay with neo-nazis”

In today’s perspective, this honestly starts to reflect worse on the mods for not just straight up banning MM9K than they do on MM9K for making those comments in the first place. But see, unlike other typical transphobic users, MM9K actually did make contributions and, outside of all that I thought he was a relatively decent user. After a point, I was worried that perhaps I was being heavy handed. Again, I would rather see him change, and often, trying to force someone to think a certain way would only backfire and entrench their ideology further. I decided that instead of watching him like a hawk, I would try to just let him interact with the community, and see that most trans people are just normal people. Yeah, it’s real funny in hindsight I know.

Alternatively, given the I DID NOTHING WRONG attitude, it seemed probable that if MM9K was banned, he would appeal it with the same attitude (and this thread’s existence sure vindicates that). Especially if it was one moderator was suspending him constantly over the same thing in rapid succession, well clearly that one moderator is just abusing their powers. And if it’s something that just feels transphobic, requiring any explanation at all to show how, or if the majority of the post was “fine”, well then that would go doubly so. Instead I decided to wait and make no special effort to monitor him. Either MM9K would change, or eventually there would be one specific thing that no reasonable person would look at and doubt that they clearly were not going to change. Also, when real life hit hard around this time, I stopped trying to do everything on the site.

ACT II: I’ve Long-Since Improved

But now, let’s fast forward a bit. You guys get an interim super-secret

You may be wondering “why are those names that aren’t Don censored?” Don’t worry… this will become self-apparent later.

Oh, and I almost forgot, there was also the fact that MM9K already made an alt on the site prior to all this:

It’s literally just MM9K under a different name

If you’re wondering about that input of technical issues with the site:

Oh but don’t worry, this wasn’t the only site input.

Anonblah repeatedly and vehemently called out Rebecca Rhodes for certain articles. Various actual staff choose to delete these public messages, but I still have the records of this.
Mid-November 2021

• Rebecca, dude STOP; I’ve told you repeatedly, and the community agrees with me; no one wants to see this shit; you are SPAMMING.
• Enough is fucking enough, Rebecca. Content is supposed to be posted for straight entertainment or interest. By mass-uploading content that you know to be terrible for the sake of presenting it as such for ridicule, you are misusing the interface of our website. STOP SPAMMING
  Between late November and early December 2021 Rebecca Rhodes responded to a PM sent by AnonBlah. No idea what the sent PM said, but given the response I presume it was very similar to those comments.
  
  Mid January 2022
• Rebecca, dude, STOP POSTING THIS SHIT. I don’t care if it’s “your job”; NO ONE likes these so-called “cringe compilations”. They’re SPAM.
• Stop with the fucking cringe compilations already!
  Anonblah was suspended by Don himself on January 12 2022 for “Harassing KYM staff”. Apparently this suspension didn’t get the message across and some angry PMs were sent. On January 21st, Don himself banned AnonBlah867 for “Refusal to cease harassment of KYM staff”.

Or, if you ask MM9K:

I have had general issues with being rude in the past, I've long-since improved on them and been making a conscious effort to avoid hostility in conversations for a long time now.

Six months is a long time guize.

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If you’re wondering about input of controversial topics

INB4 “upvotes make me right, downvotes make them wrong!!1!”

Now, on the off chance, you are wondering “damn, sure seems like this would have been a good time to ban MM9K, especially given he suggested someone else should be banned for alting”; Again, we wanted to be 100% certain. Even if all evidence pointed to this being an alt, if the case was not airtight, based on previous interactions, he would try to weasel out of it. However, once it was clear that even he admitted that this was his alt (this can even be seen in the OP) the infractions on this account were carried over to the main account’s record.

But whatever, lets ignore all that. Not because it makes the mod team look completely incompetent and showing favoritism to someone who actually worked on entries (though it does). No, lets ignore it because that shit is irrelevant by comparison to what you’ve yet to see.

This year, MM9K made a comment to the effect of suggesting that trans rights are inherently at odds with free speech. But that’s an arguably an actual controversy. The far more important comment, which for brevity’s sake, will be referred to as the lake of fire comment

Now, with someone with as marked of a history of MM9K, to judge a work, or the person themselves, as deserving to go “into the lake of fire” [hell] for having a trans flag in their username felt like the perfect bow to top the ban reason if it ever came under scrutiny. Off topic, unwarrantedly transphobic, unpopular by the community for negatively judging the merits of something they generally liked solely for a minor triviality. Given the long previous history on both accounts, imo, MM9K could not have fashioned a better nail to seal his coffin with.
But you might notice something off about MM9K’s screencap of the post. See, this didn’t just get downvoted, and indeed, MM9K admits this, though I don’t blame you if you missed it.
MM9K wrote:

the cause of the current ban was as a response to my own reports, as the offensive comment I made was noticed by cross-website bullies, who created sockpuppet accounts specifically to reply antagonistically to it and bring up conflicts and false accusations against me from other websites. I reported this, and the staff responded by banning me and not the blatant cyberbully sockpuppets; in other words, they have sided WITH reported abuse, AGAINST the victim reporting it.

I’m going to be honest, despite being the one to actually ban, I did not really understand what was meant by this “reporting of bullies” until within the last 72 hours or so. I had to go back and check modchat to verify if this was why this comment was brought up because I sure as hell wasn’t one of the mods that MM9K reported this too.

Revisiting the claim of “cyberbullying” it wasn’t until recently I understood clearly what was meant. To make it a bit clearer, MM9K asserts that “blatant cyberbully sockpuppets” (alts) from other websites responded to the lake of fire comment by bringing up “conflicts and false accusations from other websites”. According to him, all of this drama and the reason for the thread’s creation was started because moderators “sided” with the bullied and choose to ban him, with an implicit “and not to ban the abusers”.

Now, it seems a bit curious that that such an important issue, both to the message commanding the immediate termination of the accused “cyberbully” and in this very thread; with all the screenshots, in all the information complied, very little details about this “cyberbullying” are provided. No evidence is provided of them being sockpuppets/alts as claimed in this thread despite implying that they should be banned (hey, remember that earlier?) This is especially interesting for a user that created a thread about “staff unfairly banning my account.” There is no prohibition that people on other websites cannot join KYM, and if there were, why would you get special treatment compared to them? These accounts share no IPs with older users, and even if they did, given the AnonBlah alt, why should they get an immediate ban compared to you? In addition, while claiming that this was merited because they brought up “conflicts and false accusations from other websites” again, it seems a bit strange given zero mention of what any of these are. Let's do that now, shall we?

Wow, those are sure some accusations. But one is saying this is just what they found on Google (hey, remember that earlier?). That isn’t exactly cyberbullying, it feels like it is internet research. One of them cites where the claim came from, and the other is just responding to it. This is the kind of thing that is why knowyourmemdotcom exists. You yourself have worked on entries and indeed, felt that you were notable enough to merit a self-mention in a KYM article. You should know this, you’ve been on the site for eight years. While I do understand that such allegations are very serious, surely you are aware of the Streisand Effect?
But don’t worry, we’ll come back to this.

ACT III: Very Clear About Advocating and Asserting My Rights

After being banned from KYM, MM9K attempted to join the discord, and was banned rather immediately. Some mods didn’t want to deal with him at all. Other mods, myself included, were against this. But mostly because they really wanted to keep him to make a fool of himself. “I was against immediately banning Moleman from the main discord… …if Moleman does try to brigade elsewhere to be unbanned, hindsight might show that if he did get mocked on the discord he might realize he doesn't want back anyways.”

So after this MM9K went to the KYM subreddit… Yeah we have one of those… no, neither the site staff nor the moderators are actually part of it in any real sense… no, I don’t really know what purpose it serves… I only know about what was posted there because of what was posted in the Discord and uh… Honestly, any summary that isn’t a screencap cannot do this justice.

For a person who is insistent that “just because” someone “believes” themselves to be one thing is irrelevant to reality, you sure have a strong opinion that belief that you are right in a situation is what matters more than anything else.

As stated earlier, mods and Admins are not really on the KYM subreddit. This fell off my radar until the first KYM thread popped up. Or I should say, after the first thread popped up because I wasn’t made aware of it until after the account that made the thread was spambanned. However, another moderator made a screencap before it was nuked. The general mod reaction was that it was the funniest thing they’ve seen on KYM in a long time.

From asserting that having a KYM account is “a right” and that breaking the rules repeatedly to face the logical consequence is “tyrannical petty censorship”, to now insisting that stuff “needs to be open to discussion from all sides” after earlier discussions were met with “You are not going to change my mind on this issue, and it is not your place to try and do so… …I’m not going to keep pointlessly arguing with you over it.” I can keep going. But guess what? We’re still not to the best part.

Between the two threads I did just sneak a peek to see if maybe there would be something else. Nothing really, the only thing of any note I found in this brief dive was from around a month ago. Apparently MM9K is someone who wants a global new world authority to exercise the massive power such an organization would have to regulate… website moderation…

ACT IV: I Am Completely Harmless

Now, as for this thread. When the mods that had missed the first thread found out about it and saw the screencap, the jest among the mods was that it should have been kept because we “almost feel guilty for depriving people of this comedy.” We decided that if MM9K really wants it, in the next thread we’ll show the court of public opinion some telling details that were conveniently left out.
Except a realization dawned on me after the new thread came up [see my first post in this thread]. As much joy as I’d get out of going everything wrong and mischaracterized in MM9K’s post… the internet fucking sucks. I know people have had their real lives essentially ruined because random dumb crap they posted over a decade ago that they didn’t even think about when they said it was brought back up. And given KYM’s ranking, any talk in detail with specific evidence might be tied MM9K, in perpetuity. The part of me that actually cares didn’t want that. Again, this is perhaps getting special treatment, but the internet will fuck you over if you aren’t careful. I would rather have had MM9K just accept the ban and not make something that aggregates most of their KYM history in one place indefinitely.

And I really fucking tried to convince him. For saying in this thread he MM9K would be offered one more chance, that’s a lot of additional chances.

>NEED

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I’m obviously fucking hiding the actual doxing information I was able to find that was in this PM.
Links in question here, here and here

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Again, I was really fucking hoping that highlighting this might make him think for once in his goddamn life.

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“You can share whatever you feel is relevant based on this history of THIS site here”

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So again, to reiterate, MM9K previously stated “share whatever you feel is relevant based on the history of THIS site” and requested an explanation as to why he was banned but action was not taken against others. The crux of all of this is that a person replying to MM9K had a claim about MM9K that originated from another site, and another responded to it. After MM9K reported this, his comment that started this was cited as reason for his ban.
Obviously, the ban itself is relevant to MM9K’s history on the site. And the ban itself was finally occurred because of the lake of fire comment, so clearly that comment is relevant. And he has made a big deal that his report of “cyberbullies” was the reason he was banned, so clearly those posts are relevant. To decide if those posts broke rules, I felt it necessary to attempt to determine if these were a fabricated hit job or not, so clearly that information is relevant.

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By the point of that last PM, I thought this had just about reached conclusion

I was all ready to make a post saying it was resolved, lock the thread and move on. But then came the response:

Fuck it. I’m done. I went above and beyond to listen to you, tolerate you, and try to convince you to just move on for your own good. You got special treatment in hopes that you would change because you actually did make contributions to the site. And you’re goddamn response to not being coddled like a toddler at 28 when you face the consequences of your actions, after claiming in this thread that you are “completely harmless” is to threaten me in person? And you have the fucking audacity to claim I am “cyberbullying” you immediately goddamn after this ‽ ‽ ‽

This was posted by another moderator in modchat after the first thread went up as a funny joke.

It sure as hell doesn’t feel like one now.

ACT V: Resolve the Drama

I’m done. My fucking fault for trying. If you are going to threaten me personally for being an “imposition” for your KYM account being restored, then WISH FUCKING GRANTED. I’m deactivating my account. As of now, I am no longer an “imposition” to your endeavors. I was the only moderator that was willing to talk to you and give you any benefit of the doubt. Have fun dealing with Don, and Doe, and the rest of the crew. Most or all of them have the power to override an action by any single mod, and sure as hell a former one so if you wanna try and change their minds, you fucking go right on ahead.

To think this threat fucking came because I didn’t want you to face IRL consequences for drama on a meme website. But what can I expect. You wanna know why I think MM9K was willing to say “I recognized the inappropriateness of the comment you are calling the last straw, and you have permission to delete it”? I can pretty much guarantee it isn’t because MM9K honestly “learned a lesson”. It’s because of those comments that , oh you know, did actual internet research on him. Research that might get people to looking and putting a skeptical eye on him, and he’d rather have the entire chain nuked, and have his own voice “suppressed” than to let other people have their own. This is even more galling in a thread accusing others of “censorship”. If you do decide to follow up on his history “in the rap battle community” (fucking remember that?) and find it (you know what, lemme go ahead and save you the effort) and append this to his history on KYM, one can easily reach the conclusion that MM9K considers being trans, or “the idea of transgender” is worse than pedophilia an actually grooming children.

Now, are these accusation true? I don’t know, but seeing the numerous demonstrable falsehoods and characterizations in the OP of this thread alone, that even privately discussing publicly available information is “cyberbullying”; yeah, no one should blindly trust a random internet source, but you’ve gone out of your way to rule yourself out as a reliable one..

This ordeal has lead me to the conclusion that I’ve cared too fucking much. Your ban appeal had no real hopes to begin with. Thanks to the drama around Eypc Wynn, nowadays, the mod team keeps records. When we ban we fucking made certain the evidence ensures a user stays banned. And if your post history, your insistence of “I DID NOTHING WRONG”, previously alting, and some damming accusations online was still somehow something you could overcome, threating someone in person was pouring flaming napalm over the dilapidated rotting wooden shack of your future on this site that you are still insistent on “fixing”. Start saving up for a pair of ice skates to cross that lake of fire. You’ll probably end up using them before you get your KYM account back.

My apologies if it sounded like I was trying to side with op. BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT (the guy's current display just pathetic, and i never liked em' anyway). That was a completely genuine question on my end. I simply didn't the same amount of context as everyone else. Sorry for not explaining myself sooner.

I usually don’t comment because I don’t like to start conflicts, since I despise them.
But I want to say this.
I never assume malice when incompetence is an adequate explanation. And maybe Moleman wrote that in a bad way. But after reading Jill response, my sympathy has dried out.

To talk like that to someone that actually cared about how all of this would affect your future, and have them actually give up on you after you answered them. Words are actually failing me in how to describe what I am feeling.

I hope the best for Jill in whatever they do.
And Moleman, I wish you luck. Not out of sincerity, but from politeness.

How far up your own ass do you need to be to go and threaten the only person giving you a chance? Christ dude.

I don't think Moleman actually understands how transexuality works but whatever

If you ever feel like a loser, just remember that this guy threatened to confront a memesite mod IRL over a banned account.

Godspeed Jill, over these last few months it looked like it got harder for you to give a damn anymore and started prioritizing real life. I wish you the best in your future endeavors away from here.
Be like Jill, prioritize real life over an internet life.

DAMN. Okay. I just read Jill's comment. Like I said, I've never liked Moleman to begin with. But I wouldn't have imagined he'd be like THIS. I can't call him a clown since clowns at least have the potential to be entertaining. This makes me feel nothing.

If you're reading this, @Contact-yrhtgdk, just know that I normally don't like using direct insults and wouldn't say what I'll say next, but… I'm sorry that your bs was the last thing Jill had to put up with. Hurry up and get your ass banned already.

I can't believe OP's bs got Jill to sign off from the site. Jill was always helpful and made sure to provide adequate insight to things when needed.
Unlike MolemanNineThousand, I hope Jill the best and for them to eventually come back.

This guy couldn't self-reflect if he was in a hall of mirrors.

"I NEED my main account restored; it is an important, dedicated part of my online identity."

imagine being so damn petty that you decided to drive a moderator of a meme site into deactivating lol

holy shitball

If you ever feel like a loser or failure, remember you aren’t an autist who threatened a mod on a meme site over an account. You also aren’t an autist who’s been spamming porn on a meme site for the better part of a decade.

Yo 9k, can you go back to working on the nava-verse instead of begging to come back to a podunk site like this?

Good golly! What a mess of a thread!

Guys, can you PLEASE unban MolemanNineThousand. He's outside my house pegging garden stones at my bedroom window and screaming at me for the past hour.