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That everyone here hates Twitter except for me.

Only thing Twitter is good for IMO is checking out certain artists. As a social media site? Fucking awful. I made the mistake of actually logging on to my Twitter account today to check the posts of a trans YouTuber I like and good lord the responses she got to making a joke reply to one of those cringe “End Wokeness” account “memes” was just full of so many blue check marks saying nasty shit and using cringe AI images (seriously why has AI images become something people on the far right suddenly love to use?).

Even outside of the tumor that is blue check marks, the fucking site also put a cap on how much I’m allowed to see in one day.

Nobody's attacking you; why are you trying to defend yourself?

>Post expressing being upset at seeing a Twitter user someone liked being actively harassed on Twitter for making a joke
>"That's your own fault for sticking with the wrong crowd, not mine."

>Uses site as the site is presented and complains about the issues the site has
>"Bcs you don't even install shit like OldTwitter. Again, your fault, not mine."

Are you going to next suggest that if some has issues with a video game, it's their own fault for not installing the right mods and finding the right people to play it with?

There are some things I did like about it, but overall, I can't really say that anything I would want to use it for it is all that great for compared to other sites. It isn't terrible for art, but most would say a dedicated art site is far better and easier for people to navigate and find things. Political discourse is mostly people yelling, even if community notes has helped a bit. Sharing videos is generally better on dedicated video sites.

Okay, I definitely shouldn't have done that. At the same time, it felt that too many people on KYM have been hating on Twitter these last 2 years or so.

Oh only the last two years?
But for me I avoid all that crap on twitter and just use it to follow some artists, musicians, and game devs. Pretty sure I only have 1-2 normal posts on it ever in all 8 or so years Ive had it.

I use Twitter myself, mainly for art things; I don't feel the want to stop using it, but I do get how terrible it is.

Specifically, the "For You" tab; my theory is that debates and controversies with threads upon threads of arguments are simply more active and thus spread-worthy to the algorithm than something like, say, a cute picture of a bird with people commenting "OMG SO CUUUUTE". As an example, there's something I noticed recently: I've been liking fanarts of this one Blazblue character, so I guess the algorithm picked up that I must like Blazblue; but either the system doesn't have the ability to recognise that one character nor that I only liked fanart, or it simply doesn't care, because my For You tab was then filled with people arguing over the idea of female Blazblue characters being too sexualised; and I don't care about that.

In times like this, I go back to my Following tab and everything becomes much more palatable. Cute fan art of/and big tiddy anime girls all around.

To be fair, I do understand a bit. I have issues in how people sometimes complain about Twitter. Complaints about how the actual user interface works, and most of the changes that have occurred after it was purchased (save for the media view feature) are more understandable.

I have a bigger issue with how people seem to treat "Twitter" as a monolith. Someone sees a few people with questionable ideas, maybe even them just talking as a thought experiment or a joke, and then people suddenly act like all of Twitter thinks this:

Even Poochyena complained about this happening when he was on the site. Essentially, this generalization makes as much sense as saying the site supported [REDACTED] because Poochyena thought it had some merit. Even if a deeper look would show that most people don't think this way, that won't stop some from painting all with the same broad brush.

This is probably the strangest hill to die on.

I'm just gonna leave this.

https://knowyourmeme.com/forums/general/topics/68891-something-im-fully-convinced-of-in-this-site/page/1#forum_post_1013336

Hey, I'm neutral towards Twitter. –I hate X though–
At the end of the day, if you curate your following page carefully and ignore the shit boosted by the algorithm, it's alright.
I agree with Jill- having to do so much extra shit to make something usable means it wasn't good to begin with, and also people make generalizations about the users too much.

Personally, I think people unnecessarily hate on Tumblr (or, for the wrong reasons at least)

Oh, i guess i misunderstood then, i thought the "i shouldn't have done that" referred to your specific comments towards Mistress Fortune, but you're referring about the whole thread itself.

I think the Tumblr hate is a remnant of the times when Tumblr was full of the kind of people that bully and doxx others for drawing fat fictional characters with thin bodies. Remember the whole Rose Quartz thing? I think after Tumblr banned porn, those annoying douchebags flocked to Twitter and that's why it started getting more and more hate. Now Twitter is still hated but for completely different reasons ever since it was taken over by Musk and the right wingers.

My personal most hated social media isn't Tumblr nor Twitter though, that spot is firmly reserved for Tiktok these days. Not only because it's a showcase of the literal worst traits of Zoomers ("challenges" that can be summed up as "being a fuckhead on camera"? pretending to be a holocaust survivor for clout? Really, assholes?) but also because i'm convinced it was created by people with bad faith and evil intentions specifically to sow divisiveness and strife in ways Twitter wasn't even capable of considering.

Also why does every divisive website have a name that begins with the letter T??

I'm just sick of the whole unfair hate due to how Twitter and Tumblr users ruining everything even for Mistress Fortune. I have never let even the Rose Quartz incident ruin Tumblr for me.

>Also why does every divisive website have a name that begins with the letter T??
By now Idc if any site has the letter "T" even with Twitter and Tumblr, the letter "T" is everywhere.

This but also with Twitter, X, idc what it's even called. I'm sick of the unfair hate due to Muskrat's bull.

Never used it and never will.

Based on the activity we're seeing outside this thread, I'm beginning to fear we may be looking at an actual mental health episode.

Why though? There is no use in defending a website with millions of active users. As a matter of fact complaining when one of these services makes a change that negatively effects the user experience is something that should happen more. Just look at what's happening on this very site at this moment with people protesting the unnecessary UI change.

It has happened time and again with websites with Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, etc, as once they reach the ceiling of their natural growth they begin making increasing irrational decisions in search of new revenue sources and user complacency allows them to get away with it.

I got nothing except for this, forgive the copypasting of the link.

https://knowyourmeme.com/forums/general/topics/68777-if-you-were-put-in-charge-of-kym-what-changes-would-you-make-to-the-site/page/1#forum_post_1013384

Its just missing the Satellites, then i think it can legally be consider a Mental Health Episode

Is this a young person thing? I cannot imagine why anyone would form an emotion dependency on a website. You have to remember that these websites are services first and foremost and they see each user as consumer, customer, and product. I am reminded of how TikTok tried to coerce its userbase into appealing the looming U.S. ban. I find that very manipulative and such tactics rely on the users having some emotional connection to the service.

You are starting to sound like that one user who was having a meltdown because they saw the meme Distracted Boyfriend on the front page and was blaming the site because of it.

You should've posted this in the unpopular opinions thread, you would've won the thing

Okay I definitely deserve that. … I wonder how that user has been since then.

Yeah, pretty much.

Community notes doesnt not help at all lmao; it gets literally weaponized all the time

I've had this exact issue but with Blue Archive and Vtuber art. I go on Twitter solely to seek out art of a very small handful of characters so I can share it on Discord. After a while, a large chunk of my For You tab became tweets about fandom controversies for things I didn't care about whatsoever.

The only reason I still go to that tab is because once in a blue moon it'll recommend actually good artists I would've otherwise have never seen.

Hey you have it very easy, I use REDDIT

The real kicker is when Elon Musk came around. So many people on this website were CHEERING for this dude to take the website over and were pretending that now Twitter was going to finally "allow free speech". They were so excited for him to "expose" twitter's management and flip the website to be right wing. They said the website couldn't get any worse, too.

Elon delivered everything they asked for; he turned it into a right wing shithole, and they still hate Twitter. Granted, a lot of the things KYM users believed to be true about Twitter before Elon took over turned out to be completely false (like blue checks only going to leave wing users), so a lot of what Elon did was a solution in search of a problem. That's how you know KYM's twitter hate isn't based on anything rational, they got what they wanted, and they are still pissy. Maybe It's because they don't like confronting the fact that a lot of opinions they hold are the same opinions being laundered by "Blue Ticks", but only now is the verification system a sign of low intelligence and bad opinions, instead of what they believed twitter to be like before Elon took over.

Reddit isn't so bad, but it has one glaring flaw: it's full of redditors.

One disagreement i have with what you said is that i'm pretty sure there isn't a monolithic and unified group of people that is flop-flopping about twitter, it's that the people that love twitter now are the same ones who hated it earlier and viceversa. It's just two groups of people doing a complete 180 when Musk showed up. The blue checkmark was always seen as a sign of bad opinions, difference being the rightwingers were the ones claiming it before, while the leftwingers are the ones claiming it now. Now the conservatives are smug about being blue checked as much as leftists were smug about it before, let's not pretend it wasn't about "owning the chuds" then as much as it is about "owning the libs" now.

Also i still believe that a lot of annoying people from Tumblr emigrated to Twitter after the Tumblr porn ban. Not the political tumblrites, but the ones posting art, including NSFW art. I'm convinced they're the same ones that later made stuff like "where are her organs" trend on Twitter: annoying and smug artists trying to tell us we should feel bad about enjoying women depicted as having unreasonable/traditional beauty standards.

I kinda sorta get what your saying, tho only a little. Trying to """dunk on""" it at this point is like stabbing a dead elephant. Somehow most people (not even just here) have failed to realize that the maggots have managed to dig their way INTO the exposed bones.
Granted I'm not entirely guilt-free, but some folk make it look like a job.

Buddy, you created a larger heap of straw than anything I've seen up to this site at this point, like seriously? "blue checkmark= bad opinion" only believed by right wingers? only hated twitter because of gamergate? thinks it's a secret left wing cable? Bringing up random "leftists also hate it but for legit reasons" arguments? Where are you even getting all of this from?

You need some time outside talking to real people because judging by your behaviors from comments such as This, Makes me worried.

I think the last time I used twitter to make a post is when I uploaded a usb assisted post in splatoon 2 for art before Nintendo created their subscription service. The need to have a social media to make a post in game was kinda dumb anyways. The only use I have for my Twitter account now is the manditory requirement to even browse art on the website.

I disagree with those who compare old twitter to new twitter/'X', or who otherwise play it down.

Fucking hell.

When the community is even more extreme than Alex Jones, than something has gone dreadfully wrong. I've seen vatniks pop up over there and the intermingling between that group, internet culture and 'western' far-right. Here we see the end-result of that.

I'm probably biased because I don't like Musk, with how he immediately bows down to hybrid regimes and even outright autocracies while fighting tooth and nail against democracies (or outright sabotaging them with his nonsense with Ukraine).

But even ignoring all the above and other scandals or issues, even before him Twitter seems designed to create the worst takes. What's the value proposition of the site?

It's probably better if one keeps a distance from the insanity and sticks to the art, but some of the artists are moving their stuff to other sites (less censorship) and there's better videos elsewhere.

lol when Alex Jones is the voice of reason things have gone too far

Back to topic, I never use twitter, before or after Moscow Musk bought it. I have zero attachment or strong feelings about the site. As far as I'm concerned, it's a nebulous stream of shitty opinions of the terminally online, muckrakers, and impartial artists wading through said shit to post their work. Literally the only reason I visit the place is for the latter if given no alternative.

Twitter really went to shit didnt it?

Nah, it was always shit, the shit's just a different color now

Shit's gotten worse. Before it was obnoxious politicians, slimy corporations and cancel culture mobs.

Now you still have those and crypto-nazis, if the above isn't enough proof, there are likely more examples. Maybe if you had Pol Pot communists there before, but ironically, I think there's more reported tankies active there now with Elon than before. Bit of a false equivalence, I'd say.

Personally, I think a lot of places (including this forum) had a problem of hyper-cynical users saying "it can't get any worse", so when it did there's not much to fall back on. Cynicism can be just as lazy as optimism.

TLDR: You can hit rock bottom multiple times.

i will admit that i am one of those hyper-cynical people, i feel like twitter is just beyond salvation